#1 Frightening Combo Disciplines 07-09-2016, 06:13 AM What are some of the most nightmare inducing combos you've ever seen or perhaps even created? I'm not. The eldest of the clan claim that the great Abyss, into which. How do you make combats challenging when a character has this ability?Business, Economics, and Finance. Ninthshadow • 4 yr. - There is an Obtenebration/Daimoinon Combo Discipline which causes Arms of the Abyss to take the form of black flames. With this desire driving their ambitions, a fewThis is restricted to mental actions, be it the use of Disciplines such as the use of Auspex or Thaumaturgy, or the contemplation of some problem. Daimoinon. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. What are some of the most nightmare inducing combos you've ever seen or perhaps even created? I'm not talking game breaking (though you can certainly toss those in if you'd like), but subtle combos that are perhaps beatable, but definitely unnerving to think about. I noticed that the canonical combo-disciplines using Obten were more for dramatic effect than strategic effectiveness, so I came up…This page is a result of a thread on RPGNet Forums regarding Vampire Disciplines. Level 1, Shadow Play: By spending 1 blood point, the kindred obtains limited control over shadows and darkness. My clan disciplines ended up being Obfuscate, Necromancy, and Daimoninom. So powers, even Auspex powers, interacting with it can only be used by vampires that have access:. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Vampires have strong offensive powers, be it physical or mental. require someone willing to invest years into training your character. Veja grátis o arquivo toaz info-revised-guide-vampire-combo-disciplines-pr 4639e84c2e692b34d394ac906654ae8f (1) enviado para a disciplina de Rpg Categoria: Outro - 3. Ghouls get a dot of Potence. So for a Lasombra practicing Oblivion, it would mostly involve calling shadows. g. I seem to have acquired a site for running play by post games. Obtenebration creates impenetrable. Rise repeat. 9) Remember to use Blood to increase your Attributes. I'm going to make a case for a few of my favorite disciplines, because they are useful (I mean, you want powers that get stuff done. vampires of higher generation. Also. Obtenebration is the trademark Discipline of clan Lasombra which is the unearthly control over shadows. A combo Obtenebration 4+Potence 3 power (or just Obt. Ignoring supernatural dangers, mortals and Cainites who leave the protection of cities may find. Obtenebration Combo disciplins. The nature of the darkness invoked by Obtenebration is a matter of intense debate among Kindred. Shadow Play is removed (as a weaker version of its effect is made into a Lasombra clan merit), and replaced by:. - +2 Grapple - +2 Physicals against Multiple Opponents - +1 additional action. Exclusivity is implied but not outright stated for certain disciplines like Draught of the Soul or Birthing the Vozhd. Obtenebration: 1) Shadow Play - You can manipulate existing shadows, moving them according to your will and even using them to weaken your targets. God, I love combo Disciplines. divination habits with Malkavians (and maybe some other clans like Hecata). Obtenebration is already a very poorly worded and terribly defined Discipline, with very few attempts made to clarify or limit what it can do. Perhaps rituals like the Lasombra have for Obtenebration. You create a zone where nobody thinks to look -. Dominate is a Discipline that overwhelms another person's mind with the vampire's will, forcing victims to think or act according to the vampire's decree. Mistakenly believed by many to be related to the four basic elements (earth, air, fire and water), this path is actually closer to an amalgamation of Spirit Thaumaturgy and. Please, consider it and give me yourJust wondering, is there any "simple" way to remove disciplines like Obtenebration and Vicissitude? (in the canon) By simple, I mean that doesn't involve blood magic, rituals or anything of the sort. BUT I also found some interesting things, so I tried to put them in use for 20th edition (which I play basically all the time). Well, per definition, the clanless don’t get clan disciplines. Harrier XP Cost: 7XP Auspex 1 Obfuscate 5 Used by the most sadistic of Kindred, this Discipline allows the user to openly stalk his prey, invisible to all but his intended target who is quickly driven mad with fear and paranoia. More than that, the game is still meant to support most groups using Humanity, and Oblivion is the Signature Discipline of a Main Clan. Well, yea. And it's more they don't trust the Tremere. Humanity. System: A subtle manipulation of Cloak the Gathering, the KindredThe merging of Obtenebration and Necormancy is a really poor choice I think. Fortitude. Objects created with this power last until the end of the scene or an. Ghouls get a dot of Potence. This is a category page for all material related to the Disciplines of the Classic World of Darkness. V20: pretty much all of them except Quietus. Combo Disciplines add to existing Discipline abilities without. Primal Disciplines can be learned by anyone that possesses Vitae within their system. Obtenebration Special Effects & Rules Obtenebration functions as described in the side bar on page 66 of Clan Book: Lasombra; which is to say that its uses are obvious breaches of the Masquerade. Formerly known as Obtenebration, V5's Oblivion signifies the Lasombra's mystical access to the shadows and darkness - a representative of the Vampire's affinity to the occult. Obtenebration Ogham Potence Presence Protean Quietus Sanguinus Serpentis Temporis Thanatosis Valeren Vicissitude Visceratika Blood Sorcery Abyss Mysticism Akhu Thaumaturgical Counter Magic. Viscissitude/Protean gives the user a Mist/bloodform while Potence allows for the some limited physical interaction. Despite that, there is no even spread across all disciplines. Each combination discipline below requires Celerity in addition to at least one other discipline. By touching your victim, you can cause the line between their dreams and their waking life to erode. Let me know what you think. It was developed in the latter half of the 20th century, and has not yet spread far beyond the North American Pontifices. IMO, the multiple powers at Elder levels are meant to represent the many ways Elders have learned to focus their Disciplines to their own ends. Years before the rise of the mighty Roman Empire, pagan sects dedicated to the Greek god Dionysus thrived. The diablerist may purchase levels in any Disciplines possessed by the victim (though not blood sorcery powers) up to the maximum level the victim achieved in a Discipline, within the newly acquired Generational limits of the diablerist. With the V20 books having so many combo disciplines, I'm curious to see if STs or Players got inspired and…I have this NPC with an ill defined power over a sort of a hellish smoke, a black roiling vapor or fog the character can summon to fill his surroundings. (Auspex would still consider that the darkness is natural only for darkness related penalty…). This is unexpected and frightening and come watch either. when activating astral projection while obtenebration 5 is active you may bodily enter the astral in your shadowbody form. Okay so let’s say you’re making a vampire be a combo of the two and you want to create some sort of combo discipline- animalism and obtenebration…Character Name: Clan: Bloodline:Merits and Flaws are optional Traits that a Storyteller may choose to include, or prohibit, in her chronicle. Fear of the Dark. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. They can only Embrace mortals to turn into Vampires. Auspex. Dominate also dulls the empathy of the user, and one must take care not to become accustomed to being surrounded by sycophants at all. Instead of a highly visable cloud of blackness, Shroud of Absence. In V5 I find a different concept because that is mechanically impossible thanks to Obtenebration and Necromancy being folded into one Discipline of which I only get 5 total powers (plus in this specific example a few rituals, but those all have specific powers as prerequisites, unlike Blood Sorcery that at least lets you buy as many rituals. The sadhus developed a Path devoted to this power. Ambrosio Luis Monçada was a powerful Lasombra, the sire of famous Lucita de Aragón. Next season liberally with Obtenebration and Chimestry, also Protean, and maybe some groovy combo disciplines of those. They can stretch existing shadows, separate shadows from their bodies, and shape shadows into things. I have access to Obtenebration now, and want it for combo disciplines and higher level abilities, but levels 1-2, I have no…I have heard people talk positively about combo disciplines of later VtR editions. For instance. Very interesting to see how players have decided to grow. They opted for Combo disciplines. Obtenebration Combos Link Back: Disciplines With Auspex Shadowed Eyes Auspex 3, Obtenebration 3 Description: This particular skill is a matter of control. Onyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Vicissitude. Revised-era Elder Disciplines that used the Madness Network are Clan-exclusive. Reducing Stamina by Obtenebration rating or half obtenebration rating (please then state if round up or down) is a nice move, i like it if lower discipline levels progress if the character progress within the discipline (like the dice pool bonusses from Auspex 1 are always full Auspex rating). Obtenebration's abyss is from the underworld and it was this obvious all this time?) The lack of 6+ disciplines curbs ambition and reduces the chance of diablerie. _Someone possessing Obtenebration 5 could put a well-lighted room into total darkness with just shadowplay. Clan exclusives are rare as hell and something you need a really good explanation for. CryptoSo here is my Top 5 Discipline; 1- Dominate 2- Mortis (As written in the Vampire DA: Dark Ages) page 190-196 (Particularly the Cadaverous Animation). Combination Disciplines. The path exemplifies and embodies the perfection of theOnyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. But it is still obtenebration and subject to things like fire and sunlight. Items are empowered by blood sorcerers through use of Ritual Magic. It is mostly for visual effects, as the character is a mysterious and cryptic ally of the PCs who MAY be demonic. - or shockwave with potence + celerity. Shroud of Absence (Clanbook Lasombra, page 72, column 2) Obtenebration 3, Dominate 3. Lesser powers of this path are clumsy in their control of the body, but become increasingly precise and. A botch on an Obtenebration roll causes the undead form of the user to be wracked with uncontrollable shadows, inflicting 1 point of unsoakable aggravated damage. This creates a terrifying storm of entropy within the shroud that is harmful to those who remain within it. 5 Auspex. This creates a terrifying storm of entropy within the shroud that is harmful to those who remain within it. The wielder summons forth small patches of blackness which cover the eyes of the target, rendering him effectively blind and giving him a demonic appearance. 8) Get a dog. Rise repeat. Onyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. two disciplines with: MalkaviansVeja grátis o arquivo toaz info-revised-guide-vampire-combo-disciplines-pr 4639e84c2e692b34d394ac906654ae8f (1) enviado para a disciplina de Rpg Categoria: Outro. Kuei-Jin's are excluded, this is Cainites only. Nosferatu and Gangrel with this Discipline technique may do the same, enabling them to howl messages that carry for miles. Most of them are incredibly narrow in focus, almost entirely alien to the general concept of vampire (because bloodlines are often used. How to develop new Combination Disciplines? Ask Question Asked 6 years, 3 months ago Modified 6 years, 3 months ago Viewed 602 times 6 I was wondering if there are some. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Practitioners of the Focused Mind greatly enhance their mental alacrity and readiness, allowing better comprehension of problems andHome-brewed Obtenebration combo-disciplines by TracerT10 in WhiteWolfRPG. Obtenebration:6 Potence:6 Combo/Technique (Cost:3BP+1WP)Each combination discipline below requires Obfuscate in addition to at least one other discipline. Dominate is a Discipline that overwhelms another person's mind with the vampire's will, forcing victims to think or act according to the vampire's decree. This action is an automatic breach of the masquerade. It costs 15 experience points to gain this power. The wings allow for flight at your full running speed(+your Potence and Obtenebration score when calculating). If I remember correctly, the Armor of the Abyss is Fortitude 3/ Obtenebration 3? If so, it's probably rare, but worth it. This power refine's Shroud of Night and combiness the Abyss's intrusion into the world with psychic manipulation of bystanders. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. The ritual Enchant Talisman is used to envelope other rituals, such as wards. If the diablerist acquires levels in an out-of-Clan Discipline, any future levels after diablerie are still. For purposes of power comparison, a combination Discipline is considered to be the same level as the highest-level Discipline it requires to learn. Obtenebration Ogham Potence Presence Protean Quietus Sanguinus Serpentis Temporis Thanatosis Valeren Vicissitude Visceratika Blood Sorcery Abyss Mysticism Akhu Thaumaturgical Counter Magic. Elder vampires have forever flaunted their powers over their lessers, the ancillae and neonates. I've got a 124-ish page reference document stuffed full of published combo Discipline powers, and most of them predate VtR's Devotions. Before this degenerates, I will tell all of you that best is subjective, and thus you will all come up with totally different answers. The three physical Disciplines (Celerity/Fortitude/Potence) are basically innate and don't require a teacher. Caitiff // Pander. Each combination discipline below requires Celerity in addition to at least one other discipline. An Auspex +. Still a good discipline with very good powers (Split Second is OP). From the Onyx Path catalog: The introductory fiction, where neonate Drusilla meets veteran researcher Beckett and both discuss the difficulties of gathering verified information about the history. This is why I ignore combo disciplines altogether. As. With Oblivion, the. But Obtenebration is not just that. ago. Exclusivity is implied but not outright stated for certain disciplines like Draught of the Soul or Birthing the Vozhd. The obvious implication of them being one discipline is that the necromancy powers will be added to the Oblivion discipline and, much like Dominate has both memory-altering and commanding powers, Oblivion will have both. I feel like the Baali would make great use of either of these Disciplines to torment others. Her merest glance can prove dangerous, her touch explosively fatal. There's nothing about Obtenebration that is specifically unique to Lasombra. The signature Disciplines tend to have decent applications multiple ones; even all three. Arms of the Abyss also become stronger when the caster knows. I like that VTR gives vamps more power out of the gate with things like Kindred. Obtenebration. The original Kiasyd (Storyteller guide to Sabbat) mixed a feeric origin with magical experiments and the clan Lasombra, and they had three Disciplines unique (Mytherceria, Nigromancy, Obtenebration), the revision of the Guide to the Sabbat was an improvement, putting a nebulous and unknown origin and removing Nigromancy of the. Requiem Devotions are different bag than amalgam. Obtenebration Combo Disciplines . Saligia Wikia pages Explore Wiki Content Community in: Disciplines Obtenebration Sign in to edit The signature power of the Lasombra, Obtenebration grants the vampire. CryptoI was looking at the Q&A, which was very great. Auspex Combo Disciplines Changes are indicated in red. Although the Tremere have long been enemies of the Tzimisce, a chantry of 17th-century Portuguese Tremere once turned their talents to specialized means of combating the treacherous Lasombra of neighboring Spain. I was reading White Wolf wiki and came across this: Disciplines have broadly changed to make them less helpful in combat and more helpful in other ways. V5 has ditched high level Disciplines, bringing them at level 4-5: generally speaking, Elder powers have been retconned through the specific math of the new edition (Blood Potency rerolls, bonus dice, Blood Surge, exploding criticals etc). Combat with clan disciplines: Oh boy. Certain Sabbat rituals, though more related to worship of Cain. Maps. Path of Transmutation. I would say that the Combo Discipline helps one hide in a place where the natural shadows wouldn't be enough to fulfill the requirements of Obfuscate 1 by enlarging and manipulating the shadows to engulf the character. Dogs can bite. Honestly, I'm more likely to pick up Rites of the Blood because of the information on Abyss Mysticism. Ic 5+10+15+”12”=42. Generation is an indication of how far a vampire is removed from Caine, the original vampire. Pulse of Undeath Requirements: Heightened Senses & Prowess You may read any person you perceive to gauge their supernatural strength; you immediately learn whether they have any supernatural physical powers, and if they are a vampire or ghoul also learn what physical disciplines they have (Celerity, Fortitude, or Potence). Properly used, Merits and Flaws help players create and individualize their characters. Nosferatu and Gangrel with this Discipline technique may do the same, enabling them to howl messages that carry for miles. Character Name: Clan: Bloodline:Need some help understanding the commonly held ideas about the rarity (or lack thereof) of the Disciplines. Brujah Master's Tools Custom Content Category: Combination Discipline / Technique XP Cost: 9XP Custom Discipline Requirements: Discipline Name Discipline Level Celerity 3 Potence 3 MET Mechanics: Description: “His hands began to vibrate, becoming so fast that they stood still once again. All combination disciplines are considered rare and are Restricted for player characters unless approved by Admin. Who cares about the masquerade when you NEED to win and survive. Non-Supernatural Stock NPC creatures in the Oblivion Orb are instantly killed. Each power lists its prerequisites alongside its effects. Obtenebration is the trademark Discipline of clan Lasombra which is the unearthly control over shadows. Code Test. Yet, five major counters can be exploited: the shroud of night cover 3 meters/success (the formulation of the V20 is unclear). With the introduction of other clans, they began adding new Disciplines, but generally, these either weren't core to the concept of vampires, or else they could be easily folded into other Disciplines, or could be replicated through the use of devotions, which they started developing in Revised edition as combo Disciplines and. Obtenebration, in the case of one bloodline, with Lasombra. That or diablerie and a nice ST. Lasombra Combined Disciplines. The Lasombra exist for their own success, fighting for personal victories rather than solely for a crown to wear or a throne to sit upon. Meanwhile Oblivion seems to be the principle of Taboo clumsily implimented due to mangling with Obtenebration. They believe that might makes right, and are willing to sacrifice anything to achieve their goals. More. Onyx Path; White Wolf Worlds; World of Darkness; Vampire: The Masquerade; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. I'm trying to come up with one for an NPC to use, perhaps utilizing Quietus and Protean, and. Some combo disciplines you may want, obtainable with the Dominate and Obtenebration you already intend to buy: Echo of the Subtle Vizier: you can silently issue a Dominate command and even delay its impact for up to an hour Shroud of Absence: if you don't want to take all of Obfuscate, consider this. Society of Leopold. Obtenebration Combo Disciplines. In his pursuits, he developed. Veja grátis o arquivo toaz info-revised-guide-vampire-combo-disciplines-pr 4639e84c2e692b34d394ac906654ae8f (1) enviado para a disciplina de Rpg Categoria: Outro. For this reason, the user is shunned by animals and humans alike. Quietus acts as a catalyst while the other part of Protean/Vicissitude allows the entity to form claws. 3 Fortitude. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. 11 votes, 14 comments. 3rd/optional. For Unique disciplines (Protean, Obtenebration. The "core" disciplines of celerity, potence, fortitude, auspex, obfuscate, animalism, dominate, and presence are at the standard cost for a caitiff (current rating x 6). Definitely adds more choices to players and combo powers are more accessible. Some ground rules: Any Clan is possible, out of clan disciplines are possible, character can be up to 7th gen (so lvl 6 disciplines are possible, including multiple powers from the same discipline), any canon powers are allowed , including combo-disciplines (1st ed-V20DA, including Dark Ages powers). - also obtenebration (2 or 3) + presence 1. Wolf’s Lament. Obtenebration Combo Disciplines . I never had enough interest in playing a Lasombra or a necromancer to have an opinion on the mechanics of either discipline, but I appreciate how Oblivion settles the issue with the number of Abysses the World of Darkness had acquired over the years. Obtenebration is already a very poorly worded and terribly defined Discipline, with very few attempts made to clarify or limit what it can do. The Lasombra tend towards using the entropic power of Oblivion. They can't breed. Lasombra Shadowplay: Maybe change that to. Obfuscate & AnimalismDisciplines are supernatural powers granted by the Embrace, which vampires cultivate to bring to bear against their foes and prey. The signature power of the Lasombra, Obtenebration grants the vampire power over darkness itself. I have a player who is currently developing their own Combo-discipline. Thaumaturgy (for blood potency), Protean, Celerity. 3 N/A. That's always the big complaint about Thaumaturgy/etc. So wrap a Vampire up in normal tentacles, then activate this power. In V1-20, combo disciplines don't take slots. Dominate's aspect of the curse of vampirism is that it devalues the basics of true friendship or intimacy. Abyss Mysticism is a form of Blood Sorcery, derived from the Discipline Obtenebration. I'm extremely excited to finally be able to share this with you. 2). Though not impossible it's unlikely that he would have learned Fortitude 1, Obtenebration 2 (one of these would be Out-of-Clan) and on top of that developed this combo-discipline in the short span of 30 years. In terms of a strict discipline combo, I don't see any issue with Quietus, Mytherceria, Bardo, & Assamite Sorcery though I think you'd certainly be a non. The origin of the. Requirements: Telepathy& Shroud of Night You may use shadows as your senses; as long as there is a shadow in the same area with you, you may project your senses into it, leaving your actual body quiescent and mostly unaware of what is happening around it. Obtenebration, the host’s pupils descend into points of infinite empty darkness. Eventually they can become part of them. Combo Disciplines. This is the original Masquerade in all its glory, and our way of saying thank you and welcome home. Aegis of Entropy. In the newest edition (V5), the Discipline of Oblivion now replaces all the various Disciplines that previously involved contacting otherworldly entities (e. The damage is lethal, however a combination Discipline of Obtenebration 3 and Daimoinon 3 makes the damage. If you are talking about non masquerade breaching fighting, a vampire would focus on hitting vital organs with their superior strength. Making it prohibitive for regular play at a regular table is obnoxious design. September 12, 2014. - Supports the part of being kindred, but we already assume she is. Sibylus • • 3 yr. By RAW, you get one power per each dot, and vampires max out at 5 dots in each Disciplines. 71. . 2 - Free download as PDF File (. Restriction can be by Clan, Sect, and/or Road/Path. Especially Dexterity. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. To make this list easier to scan through, they are sorted into pages by Main Discipline. It explains how this works in the V5 core, pg. Clarifications are indiciated in light greyThis path allows a thaumaturge limited control over and communion with inanimate objects. An astral vampire can thus affect physical objects indirectly using. I cribbed a bit from the combo discipline "Flesh Wound" and simply incorporated it into the Gangrel toolkit. Many Indian manuals of magic promise to teach Praapti, the power of instantaneous travel. See full list on saligia. Well, technically in DAV20 if you possess any of those powers the perception penalty is 2 rather than 5 dice, but you're still at +2 difficulty to everything, which is the main issue in combat. ** Requires: Dominate 5 AND ETHER Obfuscate 5 (Eminence of Shade) OR Vicissitude 5 (Conquering Blood) Cost 35 XP->. Will this set a rule that clans which share the same disciplines. 01-25-2020, 12:03 PM. This is a category page for all material related to the Disciplines of the Classic World of Darkness . Overall,. Vicissitude & AnimalismAlcina was a follower of a Satanic witch-cult which practiced vampirism and human sacrifice, possibly for sustenance. So each discreet power is just an example of something an Elder could learn to do. Ebon-Depths Obtenebration 6/ Protean 3 This powerful combo allows the user to open a portal into shadow similar in characteristics to a pool of black water that can form as a circle on the ground or ceiling as well as vertically along walls. Soul Stain. Discipline Power Levels Required Book Page . Cadmiumcadamium. pdf), Text File (. i played in a game of vampire once and the gm used alucard as the sheriff and was a blast and she used him in a way that did not take away our enjoyment of the gameObtenebration page 1 of 2 1 2 next » While other creatures in this World of Darkness draw their powers from many different places, The vampires have adopted and manipulated their blood into being able to acomplish amazing tasks. It is basically the same power as the Auspex 2, Daimoinon 1 power that reveals holy things, but it shows demonic stuff. High Clans: Brujah, Lasombra, Toreador, Tzimisce, Ventrue (Giovanni will be evaluated on request) Low Clans: Assamite, Followers of Set, Gangrel, Malkavian, Nosferatu, Ravnos, Tremere. The Beast in Mind Combo power using Animalism and Auspex. The only combo Discipline I have ever 'created' was Valeren 1, Auspex 2 (Reveal the Wicked). our lasombra was pretty unsure if pick the new obtenebration or just stick with the V20 base version. Some believe it to be merely shadows, while others feel that the power gives control over the stuff of the vampire’s soul, coaxing it tangibly outward. The one bloodline I draw the line at is the Kiasyd, since Necromancy+Obtenebration is way too much power, potentially leading to possessing. Kuei-Jin's are excluded, this is. M_Strauss. Each power lists its prerequisites alongside its effects. Take any thing that might be a different use of a concept from a discipline, or combination of disciplines, and make it. One of the most brokenly powerful Disciplines in the game, since it allow you to spam attacks on your first action each turn. Like Arms of Ahriman, this doesn't have listed duration so you can find a way to stay in this form permanently. Obtenebration 4. Celerity & AuspexSo its costing you “12” xp for the opportunity. Some believe it to be merely shadows, while others feel that the power gives control over the stuff of the vampire’s soul, coaxing it tangibly. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Really love the Toreador combo of celerity, presence, and auspex. A second opinion has been advanced that theAppendix 2: Sample CharactersThe shadow has no disciplines, except for Obtenebration at half that of the vampire, and its abilities and attributes are half those of the vampire, except for Stealth, which is that of the vampire. Obtenebration The signature power of the Lasombra, Obtenebration grants the vampire power over darkness itself. Nonsense can't speak about VDA, but in V20 and DAV20 auspex, protean, serpentis and other sensory powers do absolutely nothing under Obtenebration 2. Obtenebration/Dominate . Necromancy Rituals. Thaumaturgy. Daimoinon. since V20's larger Discipline list and ability to learn unlimited Combo Disciplines alleviates some of the need for these things): 1) The breaking up of the physical Disciplines into multiple distinct powers. Fortitude 1, Obtenebration 2. The Sabbat books (Player's Guide, Storyteller's Handbook) did not present Lasombra or Tzimisce as strictly antagonists to be used as such in Camarilla or Anarch. Obtenebration 3 was always a "cheap" vision of celerity, and all what makes it broke is the really really bad multiple-attack/action mechanic in WOD. Clarity of Emptiness. All combination disciplines are considered rare and are Restricted for player characters unless approved by Admin. Brujah: Celerity, Potence, Presence. Making it prohibitive for regular play at a regular table is obnoxious design. Level 5:. When activating Shroud of Night, you may spend 3 additional Blood to summon an Oblivion Orb within the Shroud’s area of effect. Some ground rules: Any Clan is possible, out of clan disciplines are possible, character can be up to 7th gen (so lvl 6 disciplines are possible, including multiple powers from the same discipline), any canon powers are allowed , including combo-disciplines (1st ed-V20DA, including Dark Ages powers). There's a vicissitude 2 power that allows you to use bat echo location (auspex 2). Explosive Elixir. Prophecies. Elder vampires have forever flaunted their powers over their lessers, the ancillae and neonates. Basic jist is: our characters are a Sabbat group infiltrating a Camarilla city, game is set in 1960’s. pumpstack101 3 points 4 points 5 points 1 year ago . Celerity, Vicissitude, Protean is one of my favorites. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Like Arms of Ahriman, this doesn't have listed duration so you can find a way to stay in this form permanently. "Combo" Disciplines: As long as at least one needed discipline is in-Clan and/or is a physical one, you can develop it yourself, but slower than with a teacher. Disciplines Baali: Obfuscate, Presence, Daimoinon Daughters of Cacophony: Fortitude, Melpominee, Presence Gargoyle: Fortitude, Potence, Visceratika, Flight During chargen, gargoyles may replace one of these (except Flight) with Obfuscate (+rules obfuscate) Samedi: Fortitude, Obfuscate, Thanatosis and Necromancy (+rules buying disciplines)Tzimisce disciplines looks OP, but don't forget all the flaws of their clan organisation, and their "old school" behaviour. Like a German Sheppard. Obtenebration is said to further damn the vampire who uses it, who removes himself further from God's grace and into the dark pull of the Abyss. I've noted in the past, up to very recently, that I'm just not a big fan of the "signature" Clan Disciplines that characterize the non-Camarilla Clans and Bloodlines of VtM. For those discipline levels with an Area Effect (Obtenebration Success: Successes determine the total area affected as de1 and 2) the size of the area is determined by the number of scribed in the introduction above. Amalgams aren’t additional flavor powers you buy once you learn Discipline levels. For me, it has to be Flaying Touch (Potence + Vicissitude). Small cults of vampires worshipped the lord of rebirth as a release from the burdens of undeath. A combo Obtenebration 4+Potence 3 power (or just Obt. CryptoContinuing our series of Custom Mechanics, we now present what is probably likely to be the first of many custom combo disciplines. From my understanding, before a character can learn an OOC discipline, they need to drink the blood of a teacher who knows it and then the teacher actually teaches the character. Each combination discipline below requires Vicissitude in addition to at least one other discipline. The signature power of the Lasombra, Obtenebration grants the vampire power over darkness itself. Tremere who study this Path dedicate themselves to defending the holdings of the clan. 1: Stable Mixture: The vial is harmless 2-3: Greasy Residue: Smashing this vial replicates the effect of the grease spell 4: Volatile. Combo Disciplines. So what disciplines would you like added to Vampire if you had say won a dreamsweepstakes allowing you to add some to a new product or a new edition. (esp. It is related to the practice of Abyss Mysticism within the clan. The Exorcism/Order guide: talk to your ST maybe he/she will allow you to create a combo-discipline with Protean and Obtenebration. If you want them to do spectacular things as a Clan instead of just one gifted individual, that’s what combo disciplines are for. There is some true-faith powers. All combination disciplines are considered rare and are Restricted for player characters unless approved by Admin. Lvl. Aside from its combat uses, it's also poor man's earth meld. The damage is lethal, however a combination Discipline of Obtenebration 3 and Daimoinon 3 makes the damage Aggravated. Vampire: The Masquerade -V20 Edition brings the entire World of Darkness experience full circle and will serve as the perfect anniversary milestone to celebrate two decades of gaming after dark. " While it may not take much concentration to maintain while awake, daysleep will dissolve that concentration and absolve the vampire of caring about observers unless endangered. V20 DA has moved the timeline to 1242 but i still see you point. The energy channeled in the Eye of the Storm can tear apart a mortal body or spectacularly detonate all but the most heavily shielded electrical components. In your opinion, is it possible to create a functional hybrid between a vampire and a ghoul (Or even a dhampir) through Vicissitude? In my opinion…Flaying Touch (Potence ••, Vicissitude ••) With this cruel power, a Tzimisce can tear away a victim’s skin as easily as removing a robe, all without disturbing the muscles and other tissue beneath. For most other Disciplines you're not going to be equally good at all of its powers unless you invest in a broad range of the supporting Attributes and Abilities (Dominate gets it the worst), while with Obtenebration. When the mage comes to the part oNot to be confused with, or perhaps derived from the ancient Path of Spirit Thaumaturgy (see Dark Ages Companion, p. Smothering Darkness (Libellus Sanguinous 1, page 33) Obtenebration 2, Obfuscate 1 A Magister may use Smothering Darkness to summon fluttering shadows that. Needing humans to prey upon, vampires are often urban creatures, bur the Dark Medieval world is overwhelming rural. Any Kindred. The only way to really be a tank is to have Fortitude, Serpentis 3, and heavy armor. Soul Stain. fandom. I wanted to play around with Abyss Mysticism, because it seemed neat. 18 XP. there are bigger problems than just an unbalanced Discipline. Merits are special abilities or advantages that are rare or unique in the general Kindred population, while Flaws are liabilities or disadvantages that pose challenges to a. Each vampire has access to Celerity, Fortitude, Potence, Protean, and 1 clan unique discipline which they should keep secret like an ace up their sleeve. English is not my native language, so i apologize for errors in grammar or spelling. V5 has multiple powers per level, and has a bigger emphasis on Amalgams (formerly combo disciplines). . Happy New Year, WhiteWolf community! So last year, I shared a "combo discipline" that, as some people astutely pointed out , was less an individual…Clan disciplines. Thaumaturgy. Obtenebration/Auspex . Miscellaneous Information. With the introduction of other clans, they began adding new Disciplines, but generally, these either weren't core to the concept of vampires, or else they could be easily folded into other Disciplines, or could be replicated through the use of devotions, which they started developing in Revised edition as combo Disciplines and. The smoke is part of the character's dramatic entrance, actually. Combo Disciplines 1. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. With Disciplines, a vampire can exert the strength of a dozen men, force an enemy into thrall, ignite a fire with a glance, or take the. Ars Speculorum, the Art of Mirrors, is detailed in VTR: Mythologies Bullet-pdf Bullet-nip, a book for Vampire: The Requiem which discusses a number of folk beliefs about vampires. Though not impossible it's unlikely that he would have learned Fortitude 1, Obtenebration 2 (one of these would be Out-of-Clan) and on top of that developed this combo-discipline in the short span of 30 years. ago. Re: [V:tM] The Complete Discipline Index (you asked for it) Blood Sorcery Rituals - Including Akhu (formerly called "Setite Sorcery"), Dur-An-Ki (formerly called "Assamite Sorcery"), Koldunic Sorcery (Tzimisce kolduns), Nahuallotl (Tlacique), Sadhana, sihr, Thaumaturgy (Tremere), and Wanga (primarily Serpents of the Light), but not Dark. 6) that allows a. 2) The Insults of Krivda - A koldun causes a target to fly into an uncontrollable rage and target the koldun. This is made somewhat easier to grasp if you're familiar with Combo Disciplines, where it requires having a level in both, but the final power is a. The path has a mental effect, and otherSo you could buy all the Level 1 and Level 2 powers, but you'd buy them at dots 1, 2, 3 and 4 (hypothetically). Illusions have thousand and one uses. Society of Leopold. In the case of. Protean. The Disciplines of the Kindred Primal Disciplines These are the Disciplines that alter the Kindred's own body - physical strength, stamina, and speed to provide a desired effect. Obtenebration and the Abyss is one of my favorite, and least developed concepts in Masquerade. Discipline is a term used by vampires to describe their supernatural powers.